stevec
Conference North
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 13:08:31 GMT
Post by stevec on Sept 14, 2015 13:08:31 GMT
I think the problem was that we failed to take any of our chances to score when we were on top, we then let in two soft goals and had to chase the game after that as they grew in confidence so in that sense the whole team have to put their hand up. Sam Jordan and Danny put in a lot of effort. I don't think Ryan is ever going to be a holding player in front of our defence and it looked as though he didn't either, he is a very creative player, we missed Rogan, but if it was not working why was it not changed?
We must learn to manage the game better eg keep the ball for longer and press as a team when we don't have it. We must learn to use our bodies to block opponents and be a bit more streetwise. Visiting teams always talk to the ref, some use bad language but if you swear at the ref and use the word 'you' then that's going to be a problem. (I was not close enough to hear what Evan actually said). Visiting teams also go down in a heap and scream a lot that seems to be part of the game.
I feel we sometimes try to build our attacks too quickly so the front players get isolated and support players can't get forward in time, and we get stretched leaving big gaps in midfield. We have players who are capable of passing and moving to create chances, we are not a physical team but we have to get more physical. I have no problems with a very a long high hoof towards the farthest touch line to clear the ball if we have to, but pass and move is better to watch.
The management set up is probably as strong as its been for a couple of seasons with it appears additional coaches and I think I read a performance annalist? bottom line is get the basics right (one being marking from set piece) fight hard in each game and certainly beat those around us. Brian does a decent job but I cant see how blaming the ref is ever going to help coupled, with the odd rant at times. It sounded as though he was alluding to the fact the some refs tolerate certain levels of bad language and others don't. In my opinion they should not accept any. Friendly banter is ok of course. Sorry this is a long post!
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 14:06:23 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 14, 2015 14:06:23 GMT
I think that it is clear from the majority of people posting, myself included, that in the clubs current situation Brian is the right man for the job. As previously mentioned he does a lot for the club in difficult circumstances.. I believe it is time for the team to step up and remember that they are no longer playing academy football and take on board what has been posted on here as I'm sure someone from the club must read the Gab. As well as the team doing their bit on the pitch us supporters need to continue to do our bit off. The attendance for the last 2 home games (except City) has been dire. How do people expect the team to progress when the club has no money? Histon is not a small village so why aren't people coming to watch? The village were happy to come out when we played Leeds and Swansea weren't they!! Home game travel for me is a 70 mile round trip and I still go to the majority of games. I believe the supporters should be able to air their sometimes negative views on here but should encourage the team on match days. The club and the supporters need to come together to avoid another season of bad results and scratching around for points at the end of the season.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 15:36:37 GMT
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Post by ewstute on Sept 14, 2015 15:36:37 GMT
Histonfan why will people go and watch if the football is garbage, which it has been for a few seasons besides spells last season, and from what I understand people to do with the club are effing and jeffing at officials. People aren't going to go. So of course the money won't come in. Give the fans a reason to go. Start of the season there was loads of enthusiasm and after the first home game things seemed promising, but no it was a false dawn and we're back to the same old stuff.
Squad wise it's got some talented players in it, nearly all have played first team football at this level or even higher, so we have a talented squad, but they either aren't showing it or can't.
Speaking about the coaches. How many have we got? There was loads of people on the pitch before the Leamington and city games. Are they all involved with the team?
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stevec
Conference North
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 16:26:31 GMT
Post by stevec on Sept 14, 2015 16:26:31 GMT
ewstute just had a quick look on the southern prem website which gives us as having an average attendance of 330 this season. Not sure how many pay full price, but guess that's up on last year and certainly compared to other teams in our league its not to bad. Probably boosted by city game maybe?
Your right in that we have to get the very best out of our current players and hope we don't get to many injuries. We do show on occasion that we can be a match for most teams in our league but to be fair most teams are not that pretty either but they are effective. We need to be more consistent which is frustrating for all.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 16:36:44 GMT
Post by marke on Sept 14, 2015 16:36:44 GMT
Histonfan why will people go and watch if the football is garbage, which it has been for a few seasons besides spells last season, Can't agree with you ewstute. The football is not garbage, it's just Southern League football. We have played some great football this season but sadly defended terribly. And we are a very young team finding our feet. If you want to watch glorious football, take out a subscription to Sky Sports.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 18:27:55 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 14, 2015 18:27:55 GMT
Marke that is a spot on summary of the current footballing situation at Histon!
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 18:37:21 GMT
Post by hfc08stutes on Sept 14, 2015 18:37:21 GMT
I wasn't able to make Saturdays underwhelming game but lets just say I wasn't surprised we lost. When I have been able to make it this season we have been so so poor. My concerns started in pre season when I witnessed a poor performance against Saffron Walden but I tried to remind myself it was just a loosener for the lads and nothing to worry about. However our performances by and large have been so reminiscent of that game. Uncoordinated going forward, resorting to failed long balls and vulnerable at the back. I don't know why Brian, seemingly, has coached them to play this way as I remember when he was made assistant to Nacer we were commended by many teams in the connie north for playing fantastic flowing football. The players we have are by and large ball players so for me, the airel game is killing us at the moment, especially as Sam Ives is playing up front on his own. As for the defence, well, the less said the better. I think the players are low on confidence so possibly they are at risk of being over coached ? Sometimes in these situations when you are on a run of poor results its better just to let the players play their own game and just focus on the basics. But, if Brian is adamant that long ball is the way to go then he should at least stick Oyinsan up front with Ives. He's a big target man up front and would hold up the ball nicely for Ives to play off.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 19:08:06 GMT
Post by ewstute on Sept 14, 2015 19:08:06 GMT
hfc08stutes great post! Someone else who sees it. Just because we are in the Southern Prem doesn't mean we have to drop our footballing standards.
marke, besides the first home game and a few bits in the Chippenham and City games we have by and large played awful football. If you remember last year and the year before the football was pretty much the same style. When we got relegated there were people on here calling us Hoofston!!!!
Leamington brought a lot of fans, as did City. Chippenham and Aveley are under 200. almost 300 for the first game on a Tuesday night! Dropped by around a 100 since then.
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stevec
Conference North
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Aveley
Sept 15, 2015 7:39:17 GMT
Post by stevec on Sept 15, 2015 7:39:17 GMT
marke tend to agree with your view of the season so far. We have not defended very well and should concentrate on the basics of position and marking properly particularly from set piece. But its the whole teams responsibility to defend and we have had too many tackles missed in midfield and we have not pressured the opposition ball carrier as a team well enough.
We have created enough chances to win more games than we have but not taken them, aveley being a prime example.
Hfc08stutes point about having a big no.9 who can hold the ball up and work the opposition centre backs is valid so I hope the new lad will get more game time and be an influence.
As I mentioned earlier we do ourselves no favours with poor discipline
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Aveley
Sept 19, 2015 10:26:11 GMT
Post by cliveh on Sept 19, 2015 10:26:11 GMT
Every posting has validity, which is a welcome change from most fan's forums. I hope Brian has read them all. Looking forward to seeing a difference this afternoon. COYS
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hornet
Southern Premier League
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Aveley
Sept 21, 2015 12:53:27 GMT
Post by hornet on Sept 21, 2015 12:53:27 GMT
As a former supporter, helper, business sponsor, Academy host family, players relative and resident. I can categorically state that all the people of Histon and Impington (that I knew followed the club) have either been dumped on, disregarded, ignored, sacked or worse. It was family friendly, democratic and pleasant place to be, now it is not.
It takes manners, good communications and treating people with respect and dignity to earn the same. Knowing what I know I have very little respect for any of the management team at Histon. I also know many many players who are now much happier and give much more to their managers, team mates and supporters at their new clubs.
Steve Fallon and Gareth Baldwin were gentlemen, even old grumpy drawers J.B. would give you the time day. They thanked everyone for their efforts and they got the best out of what they had and we respected them for it. Have a word with the “movers and shakers” of other clubs and you’ll see this perception of the club is similar.
So good luck for the rest of the season. Saturday was a good result for you, but you’ll need more than luck to attract some of us “locals” back.
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Aveley
Sept 21, 2015 18:43:32 GMT
Post by hfc08stutes on Sept 21, 2015 18:43:32 GMT
As a former supporter, helper, business sponsor, Academy host family, players relative and resident. I can categorically state that all the people of Histon and Impington (that I knew followed the club) have either been dumped on, disregarded, ignored, sacked or worse. It was family friendly, democratic and pleasant place to be, now it is not. It takes manners, good communications and treating people with respect and dignity to earn the same. Knowing what I know I have very little respect for any of the management team at Histon. I also know many many players who are now much happier and give much more to their managers, team mates and supporters at their new clubs. Steve Fallon and Gareth Baldwin were gentlemen, even old grumpy drawers J.B. would give you the time day. They thanked everyone for their efforts and they got the best out of what they had and we respected them for it. Have a word with the “movers and shakers” of other clubs and you’ll see this perception of the club is similar. So good luck for the rest of the season. Saturday was a good result for you, but you’ll need more than luck to attract some of us “locals” back. Interesting words. I know v little of the goings on behind doors whereas you 'have' been more involved at some point. The people who I do know that help the club off field are both pleasant and loyal and I guess arguably mad. The amount of hours they have spent trying to keep the club running both in a coherent and professional manner is unbelievable, especially considering the mess they were left in by the very man you mention Gareth Baldwin. Yes he may have been friendly and well mannered but the club could have and probably should have folded if it were not for some of the very folk I have mentioned above. I guess I am glad that I'm just a fan because I don't get caught up in the politics but the fact that we still have a HFC competing at this level is a testament to the people who care enough about a little old village team on the edge of Cambridge. As far as I'm concerned the match day experience which has always been pleasant has never changed really, the only difference is there's less people nowadays because lets be honest the majority of the people attending during the connie days were just there fore the ride or can't be bothered to support an unsuccessful team, footballing wise anyway. Although on the surface Histon may seem like one of the "failing" cambridgeshire sides during the past 5 years or so, we have beaten all odds to be where we are today and that to me is a huge success and is partly the reason why I will never stop going. I could never fathom not supporting a club that still wants to thrive even when it has been on it's last legs (of which we have been on about 3 or 4 times already). I'm sorry to hear that your experience of the club hasn't been so great, but hopefully one day you may think about paying another visit to the GW. The very essence of the club is special (well I think so anyway) and I believe the club deserves all the support it can get, hopefully further down the line the locals may consider giving their home club another go !
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