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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 18:13:59 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 12, 2015 18:13:59 GMT
I am not really sure where to start with that 'performance' I will start with this, I have lost some respect for Brian today, firstly due to his foul mouthed rant at Ryan Auger in the first half and secondly due to his lack of respect for the supporters and the officials in his post match interview. In my opinion he should have come out after the game, held his hands up on behalf of himself and the team and apologised to the supporters for the performance. Yes the referee was poor but to blame him for the result is disgraceful. From what I can work out, Evan was sent off for swearing at the ref and in my opinion the decision was correct. As for the team, there were only 3 players who deserved to wear the shirt today, Danny Rumens, Jordan and Ives the rest were poor. Nick and Curtis are way too lightweight to play in the centre of midfield. Would be interesting to hear other supporters views on the afternoons events. One final thing, very disappointed in the number of supporters there today!! You don't always have to support the players but you always have to support the club!!
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 18:45:03 GMT
Post by ewstute on Sept 12, 2015 18:45:03 GMT
Didn't go and won't be until I hear the football is better. Followed the game on Twitter and spoke to friends who went. It sounded a complete mess and I was told it was embarrassing. What was said to Auger and why? He had been excellent at times last season and bits of this. What was said in the post match interview? I will always support the team and club as I always have, but I refuse to pay money to go and watch what is currently being offered.
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 18:54:17 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 12, 2015 18:54:17 GMT
To be honest I can't recall exactly the words exchanged but they were not pleasant and for a family club I was very disappointed. The post match interview is on the BBC Cambs Sport Twitter feed, have a listen and see what you think!
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 19:41:27 GMT
Post by ewstute on Sept 12, 2015 19:41:27 GMT
Had a listen. Not good when a ref is blamed. He doesn't attack and defend for the team, that's down to the players and managers. Everybody makes mistakes in games. No ref intentionally goes out to cause a team to lose. Not good to be blaming the ref, seemed to be happening a lot from what I used to see, officials would get a lot of abuse from all sorts of people. Then we wouldn't get the 50-50 decisions shockingly.
Why was Brian Page having ago at Auger in the first place?
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 19:56:35 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 12, 2015 19:56:35 GMT
A very good summary of officials. A difficult job made harder by people like Brian. It's rare to see other managers treat them so badly on the touch line. ! I believe it was due to a challenge that Ryan did not think he could make and therefore didn't but Brian thought otherwise. A complete over reaction.
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 20:25:55 GMT
Post by cliveh on Sept 12, 2015 20:25:55 GMT
This afternoon was a sorry day for everyone connected with Histon Football Club. Performances of players, management, and many fans, left a very sour taste in the mouth. The Referee had a day he will want to forget, make no mistake, but never should an official ever have to endure abuse like that. From all directions. Abuse from payers, management, and idiots watching from the sidelines. Foul, unrelenting abuse. I'm not sure I want to witness anything like that again. As for Key, let me assure everyone of the exact words he shouted at the Ref. I was about 10 yards from the incident, and twice in quick succession, he shouted "You're a shithouse ref. You're a shithouse ref". The referee, quite rightly showed him the red card, at which point the official was surrounded by Histon players protesting, together with foul and abusive rants from fans who had no idea what was said anyway. It made me sick. As for the match, Histon were abysmal, apart from Ives, McGowan, Nicholson, and Freeman. The defence, as a unit, and individually were pathetic. I don't quite know why behaviour at football matches has degenerated so dreadfully over the last few years, but it has, and football grounds appear to have become havens for behaviour that would not be tolerated anywhere else. Today was the perfect example. And I for one don't want anything to do with it. I might give it another go, but if I ever see that sort of thing at Histon again, I won't be back. Thankfully, earlier posts on here agree with my sentiments. Horrible match.
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 21:18:21 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 12, 2015 21:18:21 GMT
Clive, I believe you are doing the supporters who went to the game an injustice regarding the referee. Yes some were angry but that's because the full details of the incident were not known around the ground. Brian knew the details and still chose to blame the officials for the result. That is more disappointing for me.
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 21:28:04 GMT
Post by ewstute on Sept 12, 2015 21:28:04 GMT
Things need to be sorted out at the club. The football has been getting worse and worse, players leaving, fighting to avoid relegation again, out the FA Cup early again, another sending off like last year, now the stuff that went on today which you all seem in agreement with was not good. If the team lose games but go down fighting (not literally as some might actually do that) and trying to play some good stuff then at least there's some positives in that. Conceding less goals per game would be nice.
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 21:46:52 GMT
Post by cliveh on Sept 12, 2015 21:46:52 GMT
histonfan01, I was not referring to ' the supporters who went to the match'. I was referring to those who were spouting stupid, idiotic, foul tripe!!! And I was not just referring to Key's sending off. The tirade against the ref started quite early on, and never abated. One thing many people don't seem to comprehend - why must the referee always be perfect amidst third rate players and management? Southern League teams should expect nothing more than Southern League match officials. All make mistakes. No one makes them deliberately Histon lost today because they were a shambles. Not the refs fault. No ones fault but the players and the manager. Plus, of course, a better team by a distance.
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histonne
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Aveley
Sept 12, 2015 23:46:44 GMT
Post by histonne on Sept 12, 2015 23:46:44 GMT
I sometimes wonder what we expect to see when we watch Histon. Brian Page, for all his hard work, is not management material for any club. His explosive temper is not good for the players and encourages similar behaviour from 'fans'. On numerous occasions, home or away, you can hear his rants from the changing room. Is it any wonder he fails to get the best from players. Given his record he would have been sacked from any other club. Sums up the situation the club has been in over the past few seasons. To blame the officials for numerous failings within the team beggars belief. Congrats to Aveley on a deserved victory and good luck in the next round. Haven't posted for a while and not sure I will again after today.
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Aveley
Sept 13, 2015 19:33:46 GMT
Post by ewstute on Sept 13, 2015 19:33:46 GMT
A lot of negativity on the board regarding the state of the club. All understandable after what's been going on.
histonne those are some big statements in your post about Brian Page. Basically saying Brian shouldn't be in charge. I'm curious as to what other people think about this? I want what's best for the club. I am fed up with how the team are playing and some of the antics.
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Aveley
Sept 13, 2015 20:14:45 GMT
Post by berbatov on Sept 13, 2015 20:14:45 GMT
Ewstute you are right there is a lot of negativity on here and it is because of results and the alleged long ball game that the team are playing . One thing for sure is that Histon have been in the lower regions of Conf North and recently the SPL for many seasons since the club had financial issues. To question the manager is unfair....does anyone out there seriously think that Steve Fallon and John Beck could do any better with the small budget that BP is operating on ? Also his local rivals City and Saints have bigger budgets by far. You could ask which team locally is punching their weight and you could make a case for Histon being the most successful. Everyone knows top players follow the money at all levels of football. Also BP has produced over a dozen youngsters via the academy who are plying their trade in the National Conference league which is two levels higher than SLP. I suggest BP is doing his bit for the club and more and until Histon can pay bigger wages to hold onto their home grown talent they will meander round the SLP without a realistic chance of promotion. Everyone should get behind the club and team and be realistic . The good times could return but not a chance under the present financial constraints the football team is working under. Also if supporters have issues with the playing style why not have a sensible word with the manager as I have found him to be a very approachable . BP would rather have a chat than see people walk away as that achieves nothing.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 7:47:58 GMT
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Post by histonfan01 on Sept 14, 2015 7:47:58 GMT
I have not lost faith in Brian but respect. Under the current circumstances of the club I believe he is doing an applaudable job but his match and post match conduct on occasions is not acceptable for me.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 9:55:02 GMT
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Post by ewstute on Sept 14, 2015 9:55:02 GMT
I won't lie. I've completely lost faith in the football. Seeing the ball smashed forward for a quick lad to chase is what we did on a Sunday morning in pub football. We couldn't pass the ball like we know these lads can.
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Aveley
Sept 14, 2015 11:03:32 GMT
Post by marke on Sept 14, 2015 11:03:32 GMT
Well, again terrible defensive mistakes have cost us. Even though we were 2-1 down, I thought we were the better side until Evan got himself dismissed. But we fell apart after that and were really poor. We were too lightweight in midfield without Rogan. But 5-1 did flatter Aveley, so lets not focus too much on the last 20 minutes of capitulation.
For anyone craving Brian's head, just think back to our previous managers Dennis Greene and, dare I say it, Alan Lewer. How did they cope with no cash and a team of youngsters. So be careful what you wish for as Brian has been a fantastic manager for this club. But I do think some of the criticism is justified. He shouldn't be blaming the ref, we should take a look at are own mistakes and ill discipline. If he can't show discipline and restraint, then how can he expect his young players to do so. I think alot of it was just frustration to be honest, so lets not over react.
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