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Post by willjones on Nov 6, 2008 15:16:49 GMT
Woooah, you're missing the (pretty minor) point completely really, but nevermind - I'm not upset, annoyed or anything of the sorts and I don't think any United fans would be, it's all pretty harmless and I know lads like something/somebody to "hate" when it comes to football...!
Seeing United refered to as "scum" isn't somthing that I consider a big deal either to be honest I'm just questioning if it's a good idea...take it or leave it, no need to see it as an attack of anyone as it isn't at ALL!
I think you could start an argument in an empty room...
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Jeeeeeez!
Will
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Post by ftm on Nov 6, 2008 15:42:02 GMT
I enjoy banter with Cambridge United fans. I like the mickey taking both ways, frequently it is clever and actually quite funny. I take comments about out village club being 'tin-pot' with a pinch of salt. Just as I'm sure comments about Cambridge's 'ex-football league' status will be water off a United fan's back. As an outsider this is my adopted area and I love it. I've got no personal grudge towards United. In fact I attended a few matches when they needed support and I donated to their collection buckets a few years back. I remember a draw against Bury. I hope that the rivalry continues to grow as I'm sure it will if both clubs' form continues to be as good as it is. Nothing better than both of our local teams fighting for promotion to the football league. It will add a real spice to the Christmas games too. As an editor of a new fanzine I thrive on rivalries between football clubs. I've written an article about this very subject for issue #4 - coming out soon (been a bit busy lately!  ) I find it fascinating the way the United fans won't take Histon seriously as rivals, and I think a lot of it stems from insecurity (although naturally they'd never admit that!) Anyway, more of that later, I hope that you enjoy the article in FGH#4. Anwyay, my point is - personally I'm all for banter, mickey-taking and celebrating massively if we take all 6 points over Christmas. I'm opposed to refering to United as 'scum' and I don't think it will do the club or Histon supporters any favours anyway. I'm also strongly opposed to some of the United fans constantly bringing up the racism issue. It's below the belt, unfair and if the minority of fans involved had taken time to examine the facts even they would (hopefully) have buttoned their gobs on the matter. FGH... as I've heard whispered in the curry house opposite The Abbey |
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Post by stags08 on Nov 6, 2008 17:23:53 GMT
I find it fascinating the way the United fans won't take Histon seriously as rivals, and I think a lot of it stems from insecurity (although naturally they'd never admit that!) Personally speaking I - and as far as I can gather all other U's I know - have no insecurities about being overtaken by Histon, and only see you as a side on our doorstep who are an annoyance rather than an a rival, as a rival is something with longevity that is built up with time and usually at clubs (and I don't say this in a perjorative manner) your own size. Which is why we still sing songs about B*ro more than anyone else, or can name 5 other sides we have a bigger rivalry with than the Stutes. Whilst you may be a local side who have tried everything in the book to turn things into a derby match, it's still not considered that by us, despite the continued - and impressive - achievements you're making around us in the league positions. Anwyay, my point is - personally I'm all for banter, mickey-taking and celebrating massively if we take all 6 points over Christmas. I'm opposed to refering to United as 'scum' and I don't think it will do the club or Histon supporters any favours anyway. I'm also strongly opposed to some of the United fans constantly bringing up the racism issue. It's below the belt, unfair and if the minority of fans involved had taken time to examine the facts even they would (hopefully) have buttoned their gobs on the matter. If you are referring to the 'Raciston' thing, that's just a confforumism (try saying that, it just rolls off the tounge) which a lot of sides have. Some clubs have embraced theirs, like we Plate! fans do, but others understandably haven't. It's not saying you're all racist, it's just a joke that shouldn't be taken to heart. On an aside of the racism issue, I haven't really heard it mentioned by United fans since the whole thing 'blew over'. It's hardly fair to say you can't talk about a major incident like that at the time it's in the spotlight. It's not as if United fans spent the 9 months (or however long it was) between the incident and the fact he was found guilty on some effigy burning hate campaign (Pope, effigy and burning was soooooo yesterday...ahem). It was forgotten about. Even now the main resentment is towards the CEN cover up rather than Histon FC or Pope, although I'm sure he'll get few kind words from us come the fixtures at Christmas. Otherwise, a fair few people on this board need to lighten up a little, it is just banter most of the time and that's one of football's most enjoyable facets - especially when a lot of it is tongue in cheek - and should be taken so seriously. The only reason I still use this place is for the banter (well, and the often hysterical completely serious reactions from people who's head some of it flies over!). Anyway, FTM, if you ever need an ''opposing view'' for your fanzine, you know where to ask! Without meaning to sound too thick (although I'm sure Bobby would be happy to point it out...), what does that actually mean? |
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Post by ftm on Nov 6, 2008 21:40:22 GMT
I have no insecurities about being overtaken by Histon, and only see you as a side on our doorstep who are an annoyance although I'm sure he'll get few kind words from us come the fixtures at Christmas. Otherwise, a fair few people on this board need to lighten up a little, it is just banter most of the time and that's one of football's most enjoyable facets - especially when a lot of it is tongue in cheek - and should be taken so seriously.
Agreed  Anyway, FTM, if you ever need an ''opposing view'' for your fanzine, you know where to ask! Without meaning to sound too thick (although I'm sure Bobby would be happy to point it out...), what does that actually mean? |
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Post by SS Stutes on Nov 6, 2008 21:56:19 GMT
some good points there by members there (wrote this before the last reply!!), personally i get bored of the usual taughting after a while, it just has some good topics starting off well and then going the same way and dying!!, so i try to keep out of it, not to say i dont find it funny at times, like FTM said, it is clever and funny  , but it can get boring seeing it time and time again, scum lost this, or that, then the tin pot this and that then the racism rows  , which i dont see how that can be deemed amusing?, also alot of the members from the board before just dont post on here as much due, i can think of one that got fed up of it , We also have to remember.. some forums you cant get away with this sort of continuos type of posting, and mods would remove it almost straight away, i do with similar type posts on another forum i moderate where posts involving selling or going 'over the top' with remarks, whether funny or not, are removed as not all can see it that way, so you have to have a balance, its not footie related forum but we have rules and guidelines that we follow and 99% of members follow them.....if they dont, 3 strikes and they are banned! So with the freedom we have here at the moment, we should respect it before its taken away from us and the mods get fed up.........Andy dont delete this also looking forward to the two 'derby' games and the banter before, during and after, they will probably be some close games, whether they are classed as derbys or not, to everyone local they are, ok not as big as CUFC v Peterboring but it will be one day!!! ;D ;D ;D anyway, i'm tired writing this so it may not make sense, sorry if offened anyone, i'm sure a few will have points to make! ?!!!..... |
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Post by SS Stutes on Nov 6, 2008 21:58:17 GMT
Yes, and I can't say I am looking forward to it. I think it was below the belt what the United fans did with their red card protest last year (while their club reps couldn't be bothered to turn up to the original hearing.) Hopefully Popey will let his football do the talking and just ignore the minority of idiots. |
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Post by DJTom on Nov 6, 2008 22:00:41 GMT
i bet some of the united fans say scum to us . I've never heard Histon refered to as "scum" once - certainly don't hear anti Histon songs, apart from some cheering if you're losing when the half time scores are read out that's about it...! There just isn't that rirvarly or mindset mate. Will i have seen the word called scum on another football forum |
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Post by ezekiel on Nov 6, 2008 22:01:40 GMT
Oh Mr Magoo, come come. Not a Derby match, when we undoubtedly aided you with your biggest league gate last season for.... how many years?. Derby game it is my old fruitcake, whether you like it or not andwhatever vision you are seeing through those riose tinted glasses. |
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Post by stags08 on Nov 6, 2008 22:17:12 GMT
Oh Mr Magoo, come come. Not a Derby match, when we undoubtedly aided you with your biggest league gate last season for.... how many years?. Derby game it is my old fruitcake, whether you like it or not andwhatever vision you are seeing through those riose tinted glasses. Since we were last playing half decently, and at home on Boxing Day in a quite 'novelty' fixture? Put simply, a derby game has to be reciprocated - and at the moment, we just don't. Give it a few years worth of the controversy and antics endured so far maybe and who knows? The fact that you use a word "annoyance" about a team that sits above you in the league with a game in hand suggests otherwise. But as I said... United fans would never be able to bring themselves to admit it. Annoyance is a bit different to 'I really hate'. I'm also fairly confident you'll lose the game in hand, but that's irrellevent. I'm more bothered about getting to top spot than what you guys are doing. Of course, saying we'll never be able to admit it is quite a convenient 'catch-all' soundbite to attach to the end, isn't it? Yes, and I can't say I am looking forward to it. I think it was below the belt what the United fans did with their red card protest last year (while their club reps couldn't be bothered to turn up to the original hearing.) Hopefully Popey will let his football do the talking and just ignore the minority of idiots. Below the belt? Our player had been racially abused by a player who was on the field (which I'd consider far more inflammatory than airing feelings that, I do hope, all football fans in this area agree with - Racism has no place in football, or anywhere else for that matter.) so it was as much support as condemnation for what Pope did. He didn't ignore anyone last time, and threw mud into the United fans. Hopefully not something that'll be repeated (that is, if he gets off the bench...) Well have a read when the next issue comes out and I'll be all ears. Might even publish your reply if you buy me a beer! Well I'm sure I'll be on a week long Histon bender in the build up to Christmas, so feel free to let me know, and I'll start saving up! Now is it Fans' Good Haircuts or Fans Go on Holiday? I can never remember... It's the fan's part that gets me...? |
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Post by ezekiel on Nov 7, 2008 8:53:15 GMT
Magoo, given the depth of feeling towards us looking down on you in the league, i think it is a little churlish to refer to the derby games as having a "novelty value". As for the subject of reciprocation from your end being some kind of pre-requisite for
the matches to be endorsed as local Derby's, i must disagree. Clearly, it is seen as much by not only us here, but the media both local and wider and of course those extra heads and bums on seats that boosted your coffers last year. So like it or not, Derby games they are and derby games they will be.
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Post by jasper on Nov 7, 2008 9:35:21 GMT
The most offensive thing Histon are refered to is the conf-ism 'Raciston'. Similarly, other clubs such as NCBA or Altringam receive the same conf-ism treatment. Will, once you take into account the costs incurred and the chance it'll bugger up your season (Aldershot were the exception which proves the rule), the SS becomes entirely worthless. Been home and away enough to know we only hear these comments from you Alix. Shame really. |
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Post by jasper on Nov 7, 2008 9:46:27 GMT
Hatred,racism...get a life...it's a game. As for Horto,there is a term used by the Yanks during the war that fits very aptly. It's called fubar and I am sure older supporters will be able to tell you what it stands for young man |
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Post by ezekiel on Nov 7, 2008 10:58:03 GMT
Very fitting Jasper |
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Post by mikecheck on Nov 7, 2008 14:38:08 GMT
Horto:
You refer to a team that is more your size as rivals like peterborough.
Apart from the facts their 2 leagues above you and hold a ground 'almost' 2 times as large as your own, and also have a lot more money.
I don't really seem how you 2 are alike? at least we are in the same league as you, and only 3 minutes away.
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Post by ftm on Nov 7, 2008 14:54:09 GMT
at least we are in the same league as you Shhhhhhhhhh!!! |
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) I find it fascinating the way the United fans won't take Histon seriously as rivals, and I think a lot of it stems from insecurity (although naturally they'd never admit that!) Anyway, more of that later, I hope that you enjoy the article in FGH#4.
, which i dont see how that can be deemed amusing?, also alot of the members from the board before just dont post on here as much due, i can think of one that got fed up of it 